Kenny King

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Kenny King -saagalle oma topic, eiköhän täällä tulevaisuudessa myös keskustella pitkäaikaisen X-mestarin mahdollisuuksista main event -kuvioissa.

TNA vs. WWE -oikeussalidraama on vasta alkutekijöissään, mutta lähitulevaisuudessa saattaa siintää myös ROH vs. TNA. Pari viikkoa sitten tag-mestariksi ROH:ssa noussut Kenny King nimittäin rikkoi suullista sopimusta loikatessaan TNA:han, tai näin ainakin ROH väittää. Kingillä oli kyllä lupa keskustella muiden firmojen kanssa koska hänen ROH-sopimuksensa oli päättynyt, mutta samaan aikaan hän oli tehnyt ROH:n kanssa suullisen sopimuksen, ettei esiintyisi neuvottelujen aikana muissa promootioissa. Saa nähdä mitä tapahtuu, mutta yksi asia on ainakin varma: Kenny King ei ole ROH:n johtoportaan suosikkihemmo, ja vaikea nähdä, että King enää koskaan Kunnian Kehässä ottelisi.

Don't expect Kenny King back in Ring of Honor anytime soon.

The word making the way around the wrestlers is that King was supposed to sign an extension of several months while negotiating a new ROH deal, but instead after saying he would verbally do so, went and worked TNA instead.

One source claimed that King stated he would be willing and able to make additional ROH dates going forward but the word we are getting is that ROH is very upset. It stands to reason he won't be seen again.

PWInsider.com has requested comment from ROH regarding the situation as well as the status of their Tag Team belts. If and when we receive something, we'll update.

Ring of Honor issued the following statement:

ROH-KENNY KING UPDATE

The appearance of ROH wrestler Kenny King on another television wrestling program tonight has raised speculation on his future as well as how this appearance could occur.

The contract Kenny King signed in June 2011 expired 11 days ago. Before that expiration, an agreement was reached between Kenny and ROH management for an extension of that contract, with a provision to allow him to negotiate with any other promotions so that he could evaluate his options and any potential interest in him elsewhere. When that short extension concluded he would then be free to accept an offer elsewhere, or sign another long term contract with ROH. Under this agreement, Kenny was free to negotiate but not to wrestle for another organization without ROH's permission.

When Kenny was presented with the written extension reflecting this verbal and handshake agreement, he informed ROH he was unsure if other promotions would accept the negotiation clause. He was told he could take the document to be examined by his attorney or other interested parties before executing it to be reassured any other offers would not be viewed as contract tampering. He also informed ROH that he would keep us apprised of any developments.

He contacted ROH on Tuesday July 3 to inform us that he had a meeting in Orlando on Thursday, July 5, which was within the scope of the agreement he had made. Then, early morning on July 5, he contacted an ROH official to say he would be wrestling on the Orlando event that night. He was told he did not have permission to appear live on television as it violated the agreement that had been made. His response was that the deal he had shaken hands on and agreed to in principle "seemed fair at the time", but "others" had told him it was not, so he did not intend to honor it.

Ring of Honor is disappointed that Kenny has chosen to make this decision, after the company had agreed to and followed through on everything he had asked for at the time of our negotiation. However, we consider this breach of his verbal agreement unacceptable, and regardless of his future employment status with any other wrestling company, ROH will not be doing business with Kenny King going forward.

A statement from ROH will be forthcoming regarding the future of the ROH World Tag Team Championship. Co-holder Rhett Titus remains on the active ROH roster.

Aika mulkulta jätkältä vaikuttaa King ROH:n version perusteella, joten olisi mukava kuulla, miten Kenny näkee asiat. Toisaalta ROH:n oma vika, että laittavat tag-mestaruuden miehelle, jonka sopimus on loppumassa samana päivänä... Voipi myös olla, että Kenny oli joutunut nopean "take it or leave it" -tyyppisen valinnan eteen, kun TNA:lla oli juuri sopivasti tuo x-divarin turnaus meneillään. No, saa nähdä seuraako tästä kuinka mittavat jatkosotkut.

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Siis ymmärsinkö oikein, että Kingillä oli enää vain suullinen sopimus ROH:n kanssa, eikä mitään mustaa valkoisella ja allekirjoitusta alla? Periaatteessahan, jos on vain suullinen sopimus niin onko se loppujen lopuksi mihinkään suuntaan pätevä? Yhtälaillahan ROH olisi voinut kusettaa Kingiä ja jättää palkat esim. maksamatta, jos King olisi vaikka jatkanut ROH:ssa eikä "loikannut" TNA:han, koska mitään kirjallista sopimusta ei koskaan ole tehty. (Ellen ihan väärin ymmärtänyt?)

[Saimou]

Siis ymmärsinkö oikein, että Kingillä oli enää vain suullinen sopimus ROH:n kanssa, eikä mitään mustaa valkoisella ja allekirjoitusta alla? Periaatteessahan, jos on vain suullinen sopimus niin onko se loppujen lopuksi mihinkään suuntaan pätevä? Yhtälaillahan ROH olisi voinut kusettaa Kingiä ja jättää palkat esim. maksamatta, jos King olisi vaikka jatkanut ROH:ssa eikä "loikannut" TNA:han, koska mitään kirjallista sopimusta ei koskaan ole tehty. (Ellen ihan väärin ymmärtänyt?)

Käsittääkseni suullinen sopimus on ihan yhtä sitova kuin kirjallinen. Ongelma on vain se, että suullinen sopimus on paljon vaikeampi todentaa jälkikäteen kuin kirjallinen. Toisin sanoen mikäli King vannoo ymmärtäneensä suullisen sopparin sisällön jotenkin eri tavoin, tulee ROH:n kyetä jotenkin näyttämään, ettei sopimusta ole voinut ymmärtää väärin. Ja se onkin hankalaa ilman jotain ääninauhoja... Tosin käsky "et saa esiintyä Impactissa" on melko hankala kääntää joksikin muuksi, ja sellaisen ROH kertoi tiedotteessaan Kingille antaneensa.

Mikäli joku on paremmin perehtynyt sopimusoikeuteen ja etenkin Jenkkilän versioon, saa näkemystäni korjata / täydentää vapaasti.

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Suomen oikeusjärjestelmässä suullinen sopimus on aivan yhtä pätevä kuin kirjallinen ja uskoisin näin asian olevan Yhdysvalloissakin, sillä onhan se myös länsimainen sivistysvaltio.

Ja kyllä ROH:ilta todisteita tästä sopimuksesta taitaa tämän pätkän perusteella löytyä:

When Kenny was presented with the written extension reflecting this verbal and handshake agreement, he informed ROH he was unsure if other promotions would accept the negotiation clause. He was told he could take the document to be examined by his attorney or other interested parties before executing it to be reassured any other offers would not be viewed as contract tampering. He also informed ROH that he would keep us apprised of any developments.

Jos ROH:illa on olemassa tälläinen sopimusehdotus, jossa mainitaan nämä Kingille annetut ehdot ja niistä on sovittu, niin ROH kyllä Kingin oikeudessa voittaa tässä asiassa. Todisteita tästä suullisesta sopimuksesta voi saada myös puhelintiedoilla yms.

Kingille tästä koituu varmasti suurta vahinkoa. Ei tee hyvää maineelle promoottoreiden silmissä, jos mies ei pidä sopimuksista kiinni. Nyt on ovet ROH:issa kiinni, joten jos ei onnistu TNA:ssa, niin työpaikkoja on ainakin yksi vähemmän..

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handshake agreement

Muistakaa että CODE OF HONOR on kuitenkin pyhä toimitus. Sen virallisemmaksi ei homma mene.

Kieltämättä vähän paskamainen tilanne. ANX:n kauan odotettu ja tunteikas mestaruusvoitto tullaan nyt muistamaan tällaisena bisnesdraaman tahraamana tapauksena.

[Saimou]

Highspots on pistänyt ulos teaserin ANX:n shootista, joka kuvattiin toukokuussa. Videosta päätellen päätös lähteä ROH:sta ei ole ollut hetken huumaa, sen verran kriittisiä sanoja Kenny Kingillä on Sinclairista ja ROH:n suunnasta.

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Ja lisää pukkaa:

For those of you wondering about how the ROH roster feels about Kenny King bolting to TNA, it's pretty much a negative outlook because he had a handshake deal to remain with the company. There are a lot of people in the industry (including some top WWE names I heard from yesterday) that felt that King breaching the handshake was worse than ditching his contract offer. The biggest complaint I heard was that by leaving in the manner he did, King hurt Rhett Titus the most. There were a few wrestlers who were also upset that King, despite knowing he was leaving, openly pushed for a finish at Best in the World where he and Titus would win the ROH Tag Titles strongly, as opposed to the planned finish (which took place) where King and Titus had a big come from behind miracle win.

Mike Mondo of the ROH roster was pretty outspoken about what King did, although he didn't mention him by name on his Twitter account.

From speaking to people close to King, the side of the story there is that the company wasn't offering him a raise and that he felt that the extension he would sign would prevent him from negotiating elsewhere. Sources close to King also denied that he had agreed to sign anything. ROH sources noted that would not have been the case. A number of other ROH talent signed extensions at the Best in the World iPPV a few weeks back, with King being the only one who verbally agreed and asked to have his attorneys look at the paperwork. The feeling within ROH is that King knew he was leaving and purposely avoided signing anything. The belief is that Dave Lagana helped King get into TNA, although King had worked there in the past prior to his ROH run.

The reality is that while the departure made ROH look bad in terms of having their pants down, it's not like he was one half of a tag team that was drawing big time money for the company. King being there or not will have no effect on the company's gates or business. ROH right now is basically there to be TV product for Sinclair and if the house shows and iPPVs do great, that's awesome because it helps that arm of Sinclair become self-sustaining but at the end of the day, it's priority is to be a TV product for Sinclair affiliates.

I keep forgetting to write this, but In regard to the canceled shows in the Carolinas, part of the problem after they were moved the first time is that Shelton Benjamin had a Japan tour and several others had been locked into indy dates and couldn't make the shows. The lineups were changing by the week. Ticket sales were obviously also an issue because you aren't going to cancel shows that were in the black. The ROH talents who were booked for the dates are being paid a cancellation fee and have four weeks to book themself on other shows if they wish. The plan is to return to the Carolinas before the end of the year. One person in the company scoffed at the negative reaction to the shows being canceled, joking that WWE has canceled more shows in the last two years than ROH did this year "and no one is scared they are done."

The ROH Tag Team title situation will be resolved at the 8/4 TV Tapings in Baltimore.

ROH:n painijat ja muut painibisneksen tyypit eivät tykänneet, että King rikkoi Code of Honoria. Rhett Tituksen tulevasta asemasta ollaan myös luonnollisesti huolissaan. Itse en ihmettele jälkimmäisiä huolia, onhan Titus rutikuiva singles-painija - paitsi jos muodostaisi jälleen riippuvuuden rakkauteen...

Kenny King on myös kertonut oman näkemyksensä asiasta. "Handshake agreement" koski Kingin mukaan vain sitä, ettei hän dissaisi joukkuemestaruusvyötä (ja vaikkei sitä sanotakaan, varmaan myös sitä, ettei muutenkaan dissaisi yhtiötä). Jos hän ei kerran suostunut allekirjoittamaan uutta sopimusta, miksi ROH:lla olisi syytä olettaa, että hän olisi siihen suullisesti suostunut? Kieltämättä ihan validi pointti, vaikka vähän kaunistelulta ja peittelyltä haiskahtaakin.

My people's,

First and foremost to all of my friends, Family and everyone riding with me on this one thank you. The love and support has been unreal. It doesn't matter if your'e a new Kenny King fan or you've been with your boy since tough enough. My passion for this sport reflects yours, and I will continue to bust my ass to give back the love you have shown me.

Second I would like to thank @ringofhonor for the opportunity To master my craft against some of the best wrestlers in the world. The last 4 years have been invaluable to my career. I have nothing but love and respect for the company that allowed me to find myself and grow as a wrestler.

Next, since the content of my character has been called into question, just ask about me. My integrity and HONOR has always been above reproach. But since they wanna talk bad about your boy, consider this...

(spoiler alert)

I was offered a contract extension, I had reservations about the parameters of the extension and effective my "free agent" option would be.

I gave a handshake agreement that I wouldn't do anything "screwy" with the belts. A la medusa. [Note from Mike: Madusa throwing down the WWF Women's title on WCW title]

I gave ROH information about every move that I made regarding working for @impactwrestling. Realistically they could have just found out when they saw my black ass walking down to the ring.

I was given a physical contact extension by ROH, which I respectfully declined to sign due to the reasons I stated above.

If I declined to sign an actual contract extension, how could anyone think there was a verbal agreement?

I took the biggest gamble of my career this weekend. So going into destination X tomorrow night I am prepared to put it all on the line. I am especially grateful to @tnadixie and @impactwrestling for giving me the opportunity to showcase my skills on a bigger stage. I was given an amazing opening and I took it. Ask Eminem how many chances you get to blow up. The world will watch tomorrow, and I got a bag full of fireworks. Tomorrow is coronation day.

Thank you.
Kenny King