WWE 12

[-Invincible-]

Vielä viimehetken spekulointia ennen roster revealia vajaan tunnin päästä. CREATE ARENA?????

Noh, se nähdään tänä iltana

E: Cory vahvisti juuri twitterissään create moden ja SE TODELLAKIN ON CREATE AN ARENA!!!!!!!!!!

[SkullCrushingFinale]

Manhattan Ballroom, here I come!

[Ravenwood]

Peli josta löytyy Mason Ryan ei voi olla huono.

[-Invincible-]

Sin Cara :O

[Nickeldeon]

Husky Harris made me

[Rhyno]

Tässä koko lista: http://community.smackdownvsraw.com/forums/topic/110818

[-Invincible-]

Tulipahan mieleen, että missä h****tissä Bella Twins ja Alicia Fox?

[SkullCrushingFinale]

Vader! Enpäs osannut odottaa, positiivinen ylläri! Negatiivista taas Trent Barrettan ja Shawn Michaelsin puuttuminen.

[-Invincible-]

Keitä ihmeitä ne kaksi mustaa latexmiestä oli?

E: Noilta uusilta sivuilta voi käydä katsomassa rosterin ja entrancet, jonka aion itse tehdä nyt
E2: p****le wwe.thq.com ihan ruuhkassa -_-

[Rhyno]

The Rock myös mukana, ilmaiseksi ennakkotilaajille joten luultavasti DLC:nä muille.

http://www.facebook.com/WWEgames

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIZOQRNVccY

[-Invincible-]

On todella hidasta katsella näitä entranceja, mutta huomasin äskön, että Christianilla oli se C sidetronina niinkuin pitääkin, mutta se sama oli litistetty minitroniin. Saa nähdä tehdäänkö asialle jotain tai onko tehty jo, mutta ei ole iso asia. Haluaisin vielä nähdä entranceja PPV stageilla.

E: Truthin entrance on ihan mahtava! Puhuu itsekseen ja kaikkee!

[Saimou]

Kuinka -Invincible- jaksaa olla ihan liekeissä / kantaa huolta jostain sisääntuloista ja niiden titantroneista? Jos vaikka saataisiin sitä pelikuvaa, ja paljastuisi että kyseessä olisi mekaniikaltaan ensimmäinen ostamisen arvoinen WWE-peli kuuteen vuoteen, voisin minäkin innostua. Visuaalisella puolella kolmiulotteinen yleisö olisi ihan kiva.

[-Invincible-]

Hehheh, se nyt sattuu olemaan ajankohtaista. Nyt katsoin myös finisherit ja on todella hyviä uutisia! Huomasin että esim. Ortonin punttia tai Five Knuckle Shufflee tehdessä ukko ei enää spawnaa!

[MR.Off Topic]

Kuinka -Invincible- jaksaa olla ihan liekeissä / kantaa huolta jostain sisääntuloista ja niiden titantroneista? Jos vaikka saataisiin sitä pelikuvaa, ja paljastuisi että kyseessä olisi mekaniikaltaan ensimmäinen ostamisen arvoinen WWE-peli kuuteen vuoteen, voisin minäkin innostua. Visuaalisella puolella kolmiulotteinen yleisö olisi ihan kiva.

Itselle ei ole yksikään WWE-peli ostamisen arvoinen, jos sen pelimekaniikka ei voita WWF No Mercy 1997, jota ei ole sen jälkeen yksikään pelaamani WWE-peli tehnyt. Se kertoo jo jollain tavalla tämän pelisarjan surullisuutta ja sitä kuinka paljon vuosien mittaan ollaan menty taaksepäin ja nyt kaivetaan taas tietä kohti parempia pelejä. No Mercyn pelimekaniikka nykyaikaisilla grafiikoilla olisi semmoinen peli, jonka ostaisin. Toki sitä pelimekaniikkaakin voisi hioa vielä paremmaksi, mutta se on jo pelkästään semmosenaan pelimekaniikaltaan paras vapaapainipeli, jota olen pelannut.

[SkullCrushingFinale]

Paljonhan nuo ovat nyt puhuneet siitä, että harppaus SvR 2011'sta ja WWE'12'n välillä tulee olemaan verrattavissa Shut Your Mouthin loikkaan Here Comes the Painiin. Tiedä sitä sitten. 2011 oli hienoinen pettymys, joten innolla odotellaan mitä tästä tulee.

[Nickeldeon]

Rosteristahan vielä puuttuu 14 äijjää, mutta onko kyseessä DLC paketteja? Eiköhän sieltä vielä HBK ja Jericho ainakin joihinkin DLC paketteihin lisätä.

Mitä nyt näin etukäteen peliin tulee, itse kyllä odotan. Lista uudistuksista vaikuttaa ihan hyvältä ja toivottavasti myös toimii niinkuin pitääkin. Kyllähän minä itse olin hieman pähkinöillä SvR 2011 suhteen aluksi, mutta lopputulos oli karvas pettymys. Toivottavasti tämä peli ei alennu samaan.

[SkullCrushingFinale]

Mitäs kaikkea tonne on nyt meinattu lisätä?

[Nickeldeon]

Official Info:

- Total reboot of SvR series.
- Game is going to be released on PS3, X360 and WII.
- This year' s game is said to be "Bigger, Badder, Better".
- We will see 4 superstars in action at E3: John Cena, The Miz, Randy Orton and Alberto Del Rio.
- It was confirmed that we are going to see some WWE Legends in the game.
- Game' s DNA has been changed: new animation system and new blending methods.
- Ability to attack a opponent who perfoms ANY move - game is much more fluid.
- When a move is performed in the beginning of a match, the superstar who took beating will sell this move but will get up at the same time so that matches are much faster now and more unpredictable.
- When you are on the ground and your opponent aproaches, there will be a chance for you to strike him while still being on the mat.
- When a signature/finisher like 5-Knuckle Shuffle is performed, it will be done in exact place of ring your opponent is in the moment you started your move. No more teleporting to the center of the ring so that animation could work.
- When you or your opponent get slammed to the mat - the ring will react so it and ropes will bounce.
- Revamped menu looks.
- Game looks much better this year with new shaders and better technology. Depth of field will be used.
- IGN: "The days of analog stick grapples are over. Now, everything's going back to the face buttons of your favorite controller. Grapple, strike, pin and Finisher are all right there for the taking. There are no strong and weak grapples -- the moves you're pulling off are dependent on how worn down the opponent is."
- There is a limb targeting system implemented to the game - you can strike head to make your opponent groggy, body to make their stamina go down and their legs to slow them down.
- "Breaking Point" - new submission system in which two opponents tap buttons in a mini-game.
- New camera angle.
- Wake Up Taunts.
- Momentum meter is back as a meter with a name on it on the bottom of your screen.
- You can store two finishers.
- Dynamic Comebacks - combination of strike moves which you can use only once in whole match. Using it will give you two finishers.
- Better AI - now your opponent will learn the way you play this game and will come with a fine reversal.
- New pinning system. IGN: "It's still a metered system (hold a button to fill a meter and release it when it gets to a window on the meter), but the window moves around this time at random -- it won't always be in the same spot. Similarly, the window size varies on how beat up you are, and if you're pinned after the opponent hits his Finisher, the meter might not pop up to the two-count so you'd only have one shot at it."
- Justin Roberts, King and Cole are confirmed.
- Alberto Del Rio' s entrance will feature Ricardo Rodriguez.
- There are new "attach points" thanks to which arms and legs will not clip through bodies.
- Animations of moves depend on weight classes.
- IGN: "Unless your opponent is really hurting, expect to get just one ground grapple in. The right stick repositions opponents."
- THQ stated that they didn' t like what they got from RtWM last year, so they "went back to the drawing board a bit on that one". They also stated that they heard people' s problems with online play (lags etc.).
- Some submissions will let you to climb to the rope to get the rope break.
- RtWM will be back with new storylines.
- There were some changes done to Momentum system and Stamina system is back.
- WWE Universe 2.0 – the well known “WWE Universe” mode from SvR 2011 is back, but better then it was before. It will be easier and more beliveable with more action, rivalries, alliances, matches and action which will evolve dramatically.
- There is a “yet to be revealed” creation capability.
- Story Designer is back, but no info about it was released.
- Each Superstar/Diva/CAW will have 12 attributes this year: Strike Power, Grapple Power, Submission, Strike Defense, Grapple Defense, Speed, Agility, Adrenaline, Recovery, Toughness, Charisma, Tag Team.
- In-Ring introduction of Superstars and Divas confirmed for Title Matches.
- We will have both adrenaline and momentum meters in the final product, but their looks from E3 will be changed.
- Graphics are improved in every way: models, shadows, lighting and effects.
- Sound is still disappointing (crowd, commentary, effects), but entrance themes have reverb now.
- To perform the wake-up taunt you have to press “UP” on the D-Pad.
- If you perform your finisher right after doing your signature move it will be more powerfull.
- Operation Sports: “In a grapple situation, you press RB and a face button (on 360) to target a body part. The Y button is for the head, X or B is for the arms and A is for the legs. Each attack affects the body in different ways as well.”
- Alberto Del Rio’ s entrance contains his car.
- Gaming Ring: “(...)the kip up ability has now been replaced with something called a dramatic comeback in which when you reach a certain damage level, lets say orange from previous Smackdown games, you will have a prompt pop up and while you are on the ground you hit the Y button which activates a flashing bar that is integrated into your momentum bar and then when you hit your dramatic comeback this is done by running and press Y button. For example John Cena has his two running shoulder blocks and his spin out power bomb and you instantly earn a signature for the Five Knuckle Shuffle and then a finisher for the Attitude Adjustment. While all of this happens prompts pop up and its a war between who can time it the best, it works very much like tag team hot tag.”
- More than 60 new moves. Two running strikes from now on and better, upgraded movesets.
- Adrenaline meter is something like Stamina meter from previous SvR games. You will lose your adrenaline the fastest if you will be running a lot.
- Running attacks are much easier to reverse.
- Left Bumper button is the action button this year. You will get out/in the ring with it, interact with environment, climb the turnbuckle etc.
- Weapon Wheel is in almost every match type.
- You can’ t use finishers to break other’ s moves.
- HERE you can find new controls scheme, but you will be able to go back to the old (SvR 2011) controls.
- Transparency for Create a Wrestler mode is back.
- LaBelle Lock and Cattle Mutilation are in.
- For what it's worth, Zack Ryder's broski of the week sign is in the game, which MAY confirm him.
- Blood is back in the game, although it will be off in options.
- Limitations for Diva's is the same as last year.
- The game is still 60 frame per seconds.
- Weapon physics are still in.
- They recorded some heel commentary lines for Micheal Cole.
- No new weapons.
- The whole roster will be revealed in August.
- There will be two top rope moves in the moveset.
- While in the match, titantrons will work like in real life - they will show what' s going on in the ring, last year it was just show logo.
- Two running strikes is back in.
- Randy Orton will have an ALT attire with him having a beard.
- Everyone has a wake up taunt.
- Diva's will NOT be in 6 man matches again.
- Flailing arms during run off Irish Whip fixed.
- Reach animation before signatures/finishers removed.
- WWE Titles size increased.
- Added a TON of call names this year.
- Different servers for online. Byebye Gamespy.
- Big plans for DLC.
- 70 unlockables including superstars, divas, legends, alt attires, arenas, championships.
- The difficulties will be increased. Quote, "Normal will be more like Legendary."
- Exit themes are in!
- No triple tag matches*
- Replays are still in.
- New ref model.
- Custom Skin tones are NOT in.
- Attribute levels do not determine Grapple Reach speed in WWE '12. Instead this speed is determined by the weight class of the Superstars. Each weight class has a corresponding Grapple Reach speed. As an example, Cruiserweights will have a faster reach speed than Heavyweights.
- Can mute sound in options menu.
- The commentary team for WWE '12 is Michael Cole and Jerry "The King" Lawler.
- Not only we will obviously update many of the arenas to match the WWE's PPV schedule, but we are also introducing some new, never before seen arenas that will be unlockable in Road To WrestleMania.
- Undertakers music is the original, not Aint No Grave.
- In WWE '12 an outside Superstar or Diva will be able to interrupt single moves (2 person moves) and double-team moves (3 person moves).
- Free roaming arenas will NOT be in.
- Added cutscenes in universe.
- No shining wizards back in.
- AI of Managers and all around AI improved.
- New animations will be including in create a storyline.
- Confirmed: Mini-trons, Side-trons, Curve-trons, banner movies are all in during entrances.
- More pinning combos are in.
- The Comeback Moment is an ability that can be assigned to any Superstar, Created Superstar or Diva. Once the ability has been assigned, you will have the ability to go into Create-A-Moveset and select your Comeback Moment combo.
- Animated blood and sweat system.

July 28th:

- WWE created an opening movie for the game similar to raw or smackdown's but themed for WWE '12 and the game has it's own theme song.
- There are two separate pre-order bonuses - the first being The Rock in his current attire (tattoos etc). That will be available from Amazon, Toys R Us and Gamestop
- The second pre-order bonus being from Gamestop where you get an in-game t-shirt and suit attire for the Miz.

July 30th:

- Running Springboard confirmed.
- Running Apron attacks fixed.
- Some character specific reversals.
- A.I punishes you for taunting.
- 32 layers on ps3.

August 9th:

- New crowd sounds.
- Updated music and trons. (We still don't know who they're for though)
- Added over 100 hometowns.
- Low blow reversals will only happen in No-DQ matches.

August 13th:

- Lots of updated moves! (If someone could make a list of them all, I'll add them.)
- Reanimated GTS, AA, 619...
- Can do a wake up taunt on the apron.
- Create an Arena! - 50 Slots - CANT be used online.

Tuossa on pieni info lista.

Ai nii ja bTw:

[Panu5]

Eipä paljon houkuttele nuo uudistukset jotka suurimmaksi osaksi ovat vain paranneltuja juttuja viime vuodelta. Lupasivathan SvR 2011-peliinkin vaikka mitä hienouksia ja aika huono tuli. Create an Arena kuulostaa hyvältä.

[-Invincible-]

Areenan muokkauksessa voi muokata vain kehää ja sen lähiympäristöä

[BustUout]

Miksei näissä peleissä ole 5 vs 5 elimination match -ottelua? Siis se survivor series tyylinen matsi?

[vendicta]

Onneksi sentään Eddie saatiin tähän peliin

[SkullCrushingFinale]

Areenan muokkauksessa voi muokata vain kehää ja sen lähiympäristöä

No voihan v***u. Ehdin jo innostua. Muuten kyllä vaikuttaa ihan menevältä paketilta.

[-Invincible-]

Areenan muokkauksessa voi muokata vain kehää ja sen lähiympäristöä

No voihan v***u. Ehdin jo innostua. Muuten kyllä vaikuttaa ihan menevältä paketilta.

Niimpä. Ymmärtääkseni siinä voi mm vaihtaa sen katsomon aidan old school metalliseksi ja sitten koristella kehää paint toolilla tehdyillä kuvilla.

Tuossa on se CM Punk vs Cena, mikä näytettiin roster revealin alussa, jos joku ei ole vielä nähnyt:

E: Niin ja vöiden kokoa tosiaan on isonnettu, näkyy tuossa videossa ja näyttää paljon paremmalta kuin ennen!

E2: Oooh, pakko kyllä sanoa ettei yhtään paha ole tuo Create an Arena, katsokaapas näitä kuvia: http://www.thesmackdownhotel.com/forum/ ... topic=6928

[Static]

Kopioin tuosta Nicken listasta muutamia kohtia, mitkä ainakin minun kohdallani nostavat pelin mielenkiintoa:

- In-Ring introduction of Superstars and Divas confirmed for Title Matches

Tuota olen odotellut jo parin vuoden ajan epätoivoisesti. Taas yksi askel kohti realistisempaa pelikokemusta. Eihän se tietenkään ole haitannut, jos midcard-titteleistä otellessa ne esittelyt ovatkin tapahtuneet painijoiden astellessa kehään. Päämestaruuksien kohdalla sen sijaan on hieman häirinnyt moinen.

- The difficulties will be increased. Quote, "Normal will be more like Legendary."

Läpi vuosien olen paukuttanut pelejä tuolla Legend-vaikeusasteella ja välillä sekin on tuntunut aivan liian helpolta, jolloin on väkisin pitänyt antaa vähän armoa tietokoneelle, jotta otteluihin tulisi hieman sitä realistista "back and forth" -fiilistä.

- AI of Managers and all around AI improved

Välillä on ne tietokonehahmot vetäny sellaista perseilyä, että on ihan kunnolla saanut ihmetellä, että "Mihin helvettiin se nyt menee?". On myös ollut h**vetin ärsyttävää kun vastustajien managerit ovat häirinneet jokaista selätysyritystä. Etenkin 2011:ssä tuo pisti vituttamaan.

- Low blow reversals will only happen in No-DQ matches.

Jälleen yksi aste kohti realistisempaa pelaamista. Onhan se ollut melko typerää kun ihan normaalit säännöt sisältävissä matseissa on isketty vastustajaa vyön alle suoraan siinä tuomarin silmien edessä.

Ja joo, eihän tuo CAA-edes näytä niin pahalta, ainakaan noiden Invinciblen linkittämien kuvien perusteella.